Diagnosis #9 – The Non-Starter

Meet the Little Clio

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Its a 2006 Renault Clio 1.2 8v, Campus, with less then 51K on the clock

The customer complained of a non-start, when it was only just driven a very short period before
The vehicle was restarted with the use of a jump start
However the vehicle would appear flat once left

The battery had been removed by the owner and charged overnight
When tested again in the morning, the vehicle again failed to start

Time to step in
The battery was already free from the vehicle, which showed a very low score of just 4.2v

Battery Test after Charge – Only 4.2v

 

So time to insert a donor battery to ensure everything else is okay with the vehicle.

Battery Showing only 12.1v (low charge state) but was still able to start the vehicle

So next step is to see if the alternator is charging okay, with a few cranks it springs into life, with the voltage climbing upto 14.2v

Engine running – Battery voltage goes upto 14.2v Indicating the alternator was charging okay

Next time to crank up the demand, switching as many electrical demands (Lights, fans and demisters)

Engine running with electrical demand @ idle

With the engine only idling below 1000rpm, the voltage slowly started to drop, averaging just under 13v.
Ideally i would like to see over 13v, but 12.9v is pretty close.

Next adding a few more rev’s to simulate cruising down the road with the same electrical demands running returned a very healthy score

With a high electrical demand and around 2000rpm been displayed, the alternator was happily providing a charge

So the alternator was able to charge the vehicle battery, indicating the alternator wasn’t the cause.

To ensure they vehicle was going to “”sleep”” when it was locked up, a parasitic drain test was carried out.

So with the multimeter connected in series set to 10amp scale and on the negative terminal of the battery to prevent possible sparks / shorts, it showed 0.05amps pull when first connected

Parasitic drain test

Since the meter indicated a draw less then 200ma, the scale was swapped to show a more detailed reading

Showing a reading just shy of 54milliamps (0.054amps)

The reading was just a touch higher then a requested 50milliamp draw, however the engine ECU wasn’t given a long period of time to enter its “”sleep”” state, which would have given a potential lower reading

 

So since the vehicles alternator was able to charge the battery and there wasn’t a huge drain on the battery while it was left locked up it all pointed back to the battery has just failed

Since it was a Renault branded battery from what i suspect from factory back in 2006 – its covered 8years, which is the average life of a battery. Lack of use since its only done 50k (around 6,250 miles a year) i suspect the internals had started to break down/the individual cells inside had possibly popped due to lack of use/age

So a short spate of number crunching to local part shops to locate a new battery with a reasonable warranty and price. A new battery was installed and secured into place.

The vehicle is starting on request no problems.

 

 

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